Show Notes – Episode 25 “Seeking God First”


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Hello, friends. Welcome to Episode 25 of The Greg Amundson Show. I’ve got a great message in store for you today. I’m so excited, my friends, because today we are going back in time, only a few weeks. We’re going back in time to February 4, 2018 for a live recording of Faith Works Ministry, which was recorded at my CrossFit gym CrossFit Amundson in Santa Cruz, California. The Faith Works Ministry event that we’re going to drop in on was very, very special to me. I had an opportunity to share a message that has been on my heart since the inception Faith Works Ministry. In many respects, this particular message was the entire reason I started Faith Works Ministry. One of the most profound Bible verses to me is “Seek first the Kingdom of God then everything else will be added to you.” Those were the words of Jesus Christ. The reason that particular Bible verse is so profound to me is it resonates nearly perfectly with one of the principles I learned on my first day in CrossFit, which was in December 2001.

During my very first CrossFit workout, Coach Glassman, the founder of CrossFit, began the process of imparting to me some very important athletic wisdom, which was the principle of core to extremity. Coach Glassman explained to me that as I developed myself in CrossFit, my success would be governed by my ability to align myself with a principle. This principle being a creation of power in my body through a wave of lateral contraction that originated in my core then was transferred to the extremities of my body. If I was in alignment with this principle, then the vast number of skills that Coach would teach me inside the CrossFit gym would come to me easily. I would retain them nearly effortlessly and most importantly I would be able to utilize them with great success in the workouts. Core to extremity, that has been the drum bit the rhythm of my life day in and day out through countless workouts.

Well, my friends, what’s so exciting to me is the spiritual equivalent of that very important athletic principle was thought to us by Jesus Christ when he said, “Seek first the Kingdom of God then everything else will be added to you.” Now in order to understand the significance, the correlate between the athletic and the spiritual meaning of seeking first the Kingdom of God, we have to unpack several other principles from scripture while simultaneously unpacking several other principles from the gym. That is exactly what I have in store for you on today’s episode as we travel back in time to Faith Works Ministry. So without further ado, in the words of CrossFit founder Coach Greg Glassman, come with me back in time on the famous countdown three, two, one, go.


Welcome, everyone. As I mentioned during the workout, this is Faith Works Ministry number 6. Outstanding. Some of you have been here since the very beginning; some of you are here for the first time today. Welcome if you’re here for the first time and, of course, if you are returning, welcome back.

I want to begin with two stories from my experience in law enforcement. Those of you in law enforcement will appreciate these stories. Hopefully, those of you in law enforcement can laugh at the story and simultaneously, hopefully, you’ve never experienced this yourself because these are fatal flaws in law enforcement.

I was a deputy sheriff in Santa Cruz County for almost nine years. One of my goals was to become a member of the SWAT team. In law enforcement, there’s a common saying that you’re either SWAT or you’re not. Anyone seen the movie? And I really wanted to be SWAT. I trained. I read every book I could find on SWAT. I decided to spend as much time with the deputies who were on the SWAT team hanging on every word. On one particular occasion, I was on patrol. There was a call for a high-risk suspect who had barricaded himself in the bathroom. I was one of the first deputies to arrive on scene. Even though I was one of the youngest deputies, as the first on scene that was my call. Some of the other more senior deputies began to arrive many of whom are on the SWAT team. I thought to myself, “Perfect. This will be my opportunity to show them what I’m made of. That I’ve got what it takes to be on the team.” Everyone arrives, we compile a plan. I’m second in line to make entry into this house. Stacked behind me are all other deputies who are on the SWAT team. I’ve got my Glock, my sidearm, in my hand, I’m preparing to make entry, and I think to myself, “You know what would look great to all these deputies who are on the SWAT team is if I did a high speed, low drag press check of my weapon.” A press check means that very gently you move the slide back on the receiver to look inside the barrel and make sure there’s a round in the chamber. Well, I was so jacked up on adrenaline and testosterone that the word “gently” had no place in my body. I aggressively pulled the slide back, out popped a round then I induced a malfunction in the weapon. There’s an empty round rolling around the ground, my weapon’s in what’s called a double feed, and there are six other deputies stacked up behind me. That was a huge problem. I moved to the back of the line. I’m looking around on the ground trying to find that round of ammunition, fixing my malfunction. Needless to say, that was not let down for many, many years. And it will be many, many more years until I was even remotely deemed ready to be on the SWAT team.

Another incident of a fatal flaw, this time, thankfully, I was not the only one involved in making this mistake. After nine years with the sheriff’s office, I moved on in my career and started to serve as a special agent with the DEA. Our primary mission was to find drug cartels. Once we found the cartel, we would follow the members of the cartel for months on end trying to locate the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, which is the stash house. After months and months of surveillance we had indeed located the stash house of one of the largest drug cartels in the world. It was time for the raid of that location because we had been staking out this location for so long. Once we made entry and came inside even though we anticipated drugs being inside the stash house, no one was prepared for what we saw that day. There were barrels of drugs stacked from the ground all the way up to a warehouse ceiling. Imagine Costco full of drugs. That’s what we came across. Well, needless to say, we were pretty excited about our accomplishment. And so as soon as we go in, we put our weapons on safe, let them sling, we’re giving high fives, we’re taking selfies “We struck gold.” Right around that time, in walks the main target of our investigation with a group of his body guards. By the grace of God, we were not all killed. We were sitting ducks.


In both of these instances, what I want to highlight to you is the specific mistake that I made. Granted, anyone in law enforcement is probably thinking, “Greg, you made much more than one mistake,” and that’s accurate. However, one mistake became the catalysts for every other mistake that I made. The main error that I made that particular day with the Sheriff’s Office was the same error that a collective group of special agents highly trained made the other day nearly eight years in advance. That mistake was not understanding what is referred to spiritually as our governing principle.

A governing principle in physical fitness would be core to extremity. Consider those of you that just did the workout with me. Everything we did in that workout was made possible because we were in alignment with a governing physical fitness principle, which was core to extremity: the kettle bell sling, the toe to bar, the Burpee. We were generating power in those specific movements by a lateral contraction of power from our core to extremity.

Well, the spiritual ramification of that was best thought by Jesus Christ. He said, “Seek first the Kingdom of God and everything else will be added to you.” In other words, think of the implications in physical fitness. Whether or not you were consciously aware of it, everything you just did in the workout was a result of your producing power from core to extremity. If you were in alignment with that one principle, then every other point of performance such as drive your knees out, keep your weight in your heels, all these other subcategories of the governing principle were in alignment. Yet if you violated the governing principle, then no matter how much attention you were trying to bring to a weight in the heels, knees out, chest up, those other subcategories would be insignificant because the governing principle had been violated. This is what we’re focusing on today.

Today’s message reinforces the principle I call “Being Equipped for Battle.” In order to equip yourself for battle, you have to understand this principle of a spiritual governing principle. The principle that we’d violated that day in law enforcement, in the warrior tradition, is referred to as security. Security always has to be the number one governing principle in the warrior tradition. If security is violated, if security is lacking, then nothing else you do is worthwhile. In fact, if security is violated, that one principle, then the likelihood of lost of life is very, very high.

Refer back to the mistake that I’d made with the DEA. We had forgotten to leave anyone on security. There was no one watching what’s called “our back.” There was no one watching our six. We were all solely focused on the price, on the world, on the success of what we had achieved. We’d violated what would keep us alive I the world, our security.

Let’s go back into the Old Testament. The theme that we’re using with Faith Works Ministry if you recall from last month is we’re tracing through the entire biblical narrative these themes. We’re understanding the theme from the foundation of the Old Testament. Then even more importantly, we’re looking at the fulfillment of that same theme through the life of Jesus Christ. That’s what we’re up to today. We’re going back in time to an interesting part of the Bible. This is Numbers, the Book of Numbers.


To set the scene for you in Numbers, Moses is leading nearly 400,000 people through the desert. These are the years of the wilderness, the years of wandering. The Israelites are looking; they’re searching for their Promised Land. They know the Promised Land was promised to them by God. It’s only a matter of time before they step into the land of milk and honey. Here we go, tracing this theme as far back as Numbers.

The cloud above the tabernacle, which was the residing place of the presence of God, whenever the cloud lifted, now, the cloud was the presence of God, whenever the cloud lifted from above the tent, the presiding place of the presence of God, whenever the cloud lifted from above the tent, the Israelites would set out. Whenever the cloud settled, the Israelites would encamp. At the Lord’s command they set out, and at His command they encamped. As long as the cloud stayed over the tabernacle, they remained in camp. When the cloud remained over the tabernacle a long time, they stayed in camp a long time. Sometimes the cloud stayed over the tabernacle for only a few days. At the Lord’s command they would encamp, and then at his command, they would set out. It’s a routine. When the cloud is present, they listened and obeyed and encamped. When the cloud moved on, they would pack up camp and they would move on. Now, the totally of the scripture is summed up best right here. Listen to this. “At the Lord’s command they encamped, and at the Lord’s command they set out.” Part of understanding the governing principle, which we’re now taking from the word of Jesus Christ “Seek first the Kingdom of God.” and we’re arcing back to the Old Testament and we’re trying to draw a connection between what Jesus ultimately fulfilled in his life and what Moses was initially proposing as far back as Numbers, one of the very first books of the Bible. And what we see is there’s this principle of following the direction of God, of understanding the pace, the timing, or in other words, for those of us that just did the workout, the interval of when to work and when to rest. There’s a principle here that God is trying to teach us. When do we set out? When do we work? When do we rest? When do we set up camp? How do we understand when it’s time to get work done? How do we understand when it’s time to let God work on our behalf? That’s the principle in many respects of the totality of Faith Works Ministry. We’re reverse engineering our faith through the context of working out. If you just did the workout, you understood that the reason we were resting in between intervals is that we had another interval to do. And by resting even for a few moments, what happened when I said, “Three, two, one, go”? We were reenergized. And what happened during that regeneration process? What were we doing with the temple of our mind? We were repeating the word of God. Even though we were physically at rest our mind was actively repeating the word of God. That act of rest allowed us once it was time, in Numbers metaphorically, for the cloud to move on. In other words, once it was time for us to go back into work, we were ready, we were prepared. All of us faced work.


The Bible talks a great deal about being tested. Those of us who are athletes, those of us who have served in law enforcement understand the context of testing. Oftentimes those people that are involved in martial arts, you actively seek out people who are at a higher caliber than you because you know intuitively that only by testing yourself against someone who is superior to you can you ultimately raise your capacity, raise your ability. Same thing in CrossFit, some of the best workouts we have in CrossFit are when we are in the company of athletes who are at a higher caliber than we are. They can show us what is possible if we are able to remain in faith. We can see what we are able to achieve. However, part of the testing process requires our ability to remain disciplined and to see the opportunity in the test to grow in our faith, to grow in our strength because you can look at a test in one of two ways. In the context of jujitsu, you could look at an opponent who you know is superior to you as an opportunity to test yourself and to grow stronger as a jujitsu fighter. Or you could look at that same opponent and think to yourself there is no way I at this person’s caliber or level and defeat yourself in your mind. Ultimately, it is up to us. The test remains neutral. It’s our thinking about the test that we’ll ultimately influence the results of the test. For that, we moved just a few pages ahead in the same Book of Numbers.

To go back to setting the scene, we know the operational tempo. In the warrior tradition, this is referred to as battle rhythm. The battle rhythm, thus far, has been when the cloud of the presence of the Lord is over the camp the people of Moses are in camp. When that cloud moves out from camp, they pack up their belongings and they follow God. That had been taking place for years and years and years. Finally, therewithin approximately two weeks of reaching the Promised Land, the land of Canaan, they’d already been promised this land. God promised Moses this would be the land they would inherit. They were two weeks away. Imagine being two weeks away from a fight, two weeks away from a CrossFit competition and you already knew you had been promised the victory. That’s where we pick up in our story.

The Lord said to Moses, “Send some men,” we discovered it was in fact 12 men, “Send some men to explore the land of Canaan. Here’s the key which I am giving to you.” That’s a promise. The word of God is a promise. In other words, God said to Moses, “Send 12 spies,” I like to think of it as “Send 12 special agents,” “into the midst of enemy territory. Yet when you’re in enemy territory, have faith. I’ve given that territory to you. So go and explore it. Go and spy it out. Conduct a reconnaissance yet remain faithful, remain positive because the land is yours. So go see what it is you’re going to inherit.” Well, the people went out. The 12 spies, they conducted their reconnaissance then they came back. It was time to report to Moses. This is what’s referred to in the warrior tradition as “After a reconnaissance, we give an after-action review.” We recapitulate the mission. We become the eyes and ears of the people that were not in the advance element. And here’s what those people said, “We went into the land which you sent us and it does flow with milk and honey. It is the Promised Land. But,” oh, that word, “but the people who lived there are powerful and the cities are fortified and very large. We cannot attack those people. They’re stronger than we are.” Ten of the spies came back with that report. Ten spies came back with a negative report. However, two of those ten were faithful.


Caleb came back and said, “We can take those people. We can take the Promised Land. It’s two weeks away. We can collectively go. The spirit of the Lord is upon us. God is with us. If God is with us, who can be against us? Follow me. Let’s go.” Two of the ten were warriors. Two of the ten had their priorities right. Two of the ten were willing to step out in faith in the promise of the word of God. They knew despite what their eyes were trying to tell them they had the assurance of God’s promise with them.

Now, isn’t that the experience we all have in our life as we face tests? In every test I’d faced, whether it was a test on a battlefield or a test right here in our gymnasium, every test I face I realize there are two voices inside my head. One voice is saying, “Go for it, Greg. You can do it. God is with you.” The other voice is saying, “Runaway.” That’s the experience we all have. And that experience, God is trying to show us is and always will be part of our experience as human beings. That’s the tendency of our mind is to be divided between what we know is possible through faith in God and what we know is impossible by nearly relying on our self. For this reason, I believe Jesus said, “A house divided cannot stand.” What I mean is I think Jesus was trying to inspire us to realize that if our mind is divided between “I can do it. God is with me,” and “No, I can’t,” that house or our mind will fall. We have to be all in with the word of God. We have to whole heartedly believe with our mind, our body, our soul, our heart, with all our strength that we can do it. However, the key, my friends, is we’re understanding that the reason we believe we can do it is because we have the promise of God. The tendency, the temptation is to think through our own strength we can do it, and that’s the recipe for failure. In every accord of the Bible, when people set out on their own to accomplish God’s will, they failed. Yet when inferior numbers, when the odds were stacked, when naturally it would seem that there is no way this can happen, supernaturally, it did happen. And the supernatural occurrence was, of course, was because the presence of the Lord was upon those people who were adamant that they could do it through His strength alone. Testing.

We understand a few qualities of testing. The first quality of testing is that we will be tested. We will all be tested I this life. That’s an assurance. Is that the message you came to hear today? Most people go through their entire life trying to avoid testing. Imagine if you were coming into the gym and you were growing stronger physically yet I was not giving you an opportunity to add more weight to your barbell, would I be a good and faithful coach? No. In fact, as many of you know, sometimes even though you may not think you’re ready I see the readiness in you and what do I do to your barbell? I put on more weight. Why? Why would I give you more resistance? Because I know that through that resistance, through the increase of the test I know you will simultaneously, measure for measure, increase in strength. Without those opportunities to test yourself, you’ll never grow.


In the Book of James, one of my favorite parts of the Bible, James says these words regarding testing. He says, “Count it all joy, my friends, whenever you are tested, for we know that testing produces perseverance, and perseverance produces faith. Count it all joy, my friends, whenever you are tested.” Isn’t that awesome? Now, here’s the good news regarding that scripture. That is exactly what happens day in and day out in our gym. We rejoice when we’re tested. Nothing feels better inside the gym than a PR, a personal record. What does a personal record signify to the athlete? An increase in strength. We reverse engineer the increase in strength. The only reason the increase in strength was possible is there was a test that allowed you to experience the strength that you had even though you may not have realized it until the test was upon you.

Now, a few more words regarding testing before we tie everything together. Regarding testing, the Bible also says regarding testing that in all things, God is working together for our good. In all things, God is working together for our good. That’s a promise. However, consider the implications of that verse. When things seem to be going well in our life, that verse resonates well with us. When things are going well, we may think to our self, “This is great. Everything is going well. Therefore God is certainly working out everything together in a pattern for good. I can see the good all around me.” However, what about those times when things are not going well? Is the tendency then to think, “The scripture must not be accurate,” because this is clearly not good? Yet the word of God says that everything is working together in a pattern for good. But how can this possibly be good? Why I contemplated that for a long time myself. And then I came across a really powerful scripture. Two Corinthians 3:18 is expounding upon this promise and what it’s saying is that everything is working together in a pattern for good because that pattern –do you know what it’s achieving in our life?– that pattern is transforming us more into the likeness of Jesus Christ and that is good and is always good. So every test we experience is, in fact, forging or tempering us. It’s testing us. Yet we know that that test, in the long run, is transforming us –into whom?– into the very likeness of Jesus Christ.

The word testing, when it was used by James when James said, “Count it all joy, my friends, whenever you are tested.” That word “tested” is often used in the context of forging. Think about the implications of that in the context of our gym. As you walk into our gym, above the door it says, “Forging Elite Fitness.” The word “forging” is used historically in the making of swords. A sword smith, they forge a blade. The way that a blade retains both its strength and its edge is by being hammered over and over again. In addition to being hammered, that blade, that edge is put in a fire. It’s put in a fire, a furnace. It’s heated up. Then it’s brought out and it’s hammered. And in that hammering process, the blade is folded over and over. The steel is being folded back on to its self and then it’s being hammered, back in the fire, it’s brought out, it’s hammered again, back in the furnace, brought out, over and over and over. And oftentimes if you look at samurai blades very, very closely, you can see the layers of folding that took place. And it was that layer of fold that produced the edge of the revered samurai sword. That’s what’s happening in our life. Those testing processes that we go through they are sharpening us. They are tempering us. They are forging us.


Now, my friends, I want to get into this quality of being transformed into the likeness of Jesus Christ because this is so important. When we look to the life and ministry of Jesus Christ, there was a remarkable moment that took place. In the Old Testament, which is where we began our ministry today, the Old Testament was governed by the law. If you recall last month, we spoke about the implications of abiding by the law. There were over 600 law, 600 rules, 600 regulations that had to be abided by in the Old Testament in order to remain in covenant with God. Well, a lawyer who was very skilled, who knew the law inside and out asked Jesus, “Master, what is the most important law?” which is a great question. In other words, this lawyer was asking Jesus what is the governing principle. We’re back to our opening story. What is the one principle that if I come into alignment with, I know all the other points of performance will automatically match? Here’s what Jesus said, “Number one, love God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind, all your strength. And number two, love your neighbor as you love yourself.” All the law and all the profits hang on these two commandments. With God our governing principle, our priority of work, our focus, that’s it. In other words, we could even reduce it to one degree further. If we are loving God with all our heart, with all our soul, with all our mind, with all of our strength, and if we are loving our neighbor as ourselves, we are also abiding by the direction of Jesus when he said, “Seek first the Kingdom of God and everything else will be added to you.”

In terms of CrossFit, produce power from core to extremity and every other principle, every other point of performance will come into alignment with you, which leads us to a very important question: the Kingdom of God. If Jesus is telling us to seek first the Kingdom of God and if we know that when seeking the Kingdom of God first everything else will be added to us, it certainly begs the question: What is the Kingdom of God? Where is the Kingdom of God? How can I pursue the Kingdom of God? That’s the burning question on my heart. And here’s what I want to share with you. The Kingdom of God, understanding the Kingdom of God was at the heart of Jesus Christ’s ministry to his disciples. He had to help them understand what the Kingdom of God was, where it was, how to enter it. And one of the ways that he taught this was through a remarkable parable. This parable, this theme, it keeps me up at night. It’s so remarkable. I think there is so much life-changing potential when we really understand and embrace this. The Kingdom of Heaven is like a mustard seed which a man took and planted in his field. Though it is the smallest of all seeds yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree. The Kingdom of God is like a mustard seed? What? Well, consider this. We have to go to our whiteboard. It wouldn’t be Faith Works without a whiteboard.


A mustard seed is the smallest seed. It is so small in fact that Jesus even elaborated on its size. He often said, “You of little faith” to his disciples who are of immense faith. But he said, “You of little faith.” And then he said that if you have the little of a mustard seed, you can move a mountain. So he used this principle of mustard seed very often in his ministry, yet a mustard seed, it’s the smallest seed. Why would Jesus try to inspire us to have the faith of a mustard seed? I believe it’s because if we have a little bit of faith in the right thing, we can move a mountain. Yet if we have a lot of faith in the wrong thing, no amount of wrong faith will produce any positive result in our life. In other words, think about the amazing gift that God’s given us. God is telling us through his word that all we need to have is a little bit of faith, a mustard seed, in him and we can move a mountain. Yet, if we have a lot of faith in anything but him, I’ll let you fill in the blank. We’ve all likely experienced that to some degree, putting our faith in the wrong thing.

Generally speaking, in the context of understanding the wrong thing, when the disciples wanted to know where the Kingdom of God was, how to enter it, how to find it, the tendency when we think of the Kingdom of God is to also understand treasure in the context of the world. When we put our faith in the material objects of the world, that’s like looking for the Kingdom of God out there and Jesus warned against that. When asked where the Kingdom of God was, in addition to explaining this quality of the Kingdom of God is like a mustard seed, he also said, “Be careful about looking for the Kingdom of God over there or over there or anywhere out there because behold, the Kingdom of God is within you.”

So now to bring everything back together, to tie up the totally of our time together today, what we’re understanding, there’s a rhythm. As we follow God, as we trust in his word, we establish a rhythm. This rhythm guides us. This rhythm is like a drumbeat. This is rhythm is like tempo. This rhythm is like a pace. This rhythm is like an interval in our life. As we draw close to the word of God, we begin to understand where God is leading us and when God is leading us. We begin to understand when God wants us to be still, we understand when God wants us to step out. When God wants us to step out, these are our opportunities to step out in faith and to face a test.


When it comes time to face a test, a challenge, opposition, a battle, it’s known by different words in different contexts, when it’s time to face that battle, we understand that that battle, that test is there for a reason. The reason is to count it all joy. Why count the test joy? Because we know that the test is transforming us into the likeness of Jesus Christ. Then we look to those qualities of Jesus Christ, that we are desirous of representing in our life. One of those qualities is Jesus had an ability to always, independent of what was taking place around him, seek God. He was always seeking first the Kingdom of God. He was inspiring his disciples and all those he taught to seek the Kingdom of God first. One of the ways that he inspired people to do that is by having the faith of a mustard seed. And now we understand that a little bit of faith in God is great because we’re putting our faith in the right thing.

Reflecting on the totality of our day, we now also understand one of the ways to build that faith is through the repetition of the word of God. In fact, Jesus said, “The word of God is that very seed.” The mustard seed is the word of God. As we repeat the word of God, it sprouts. It goes from being that little seed into a great tree in our life.

Well, my friends, thank you so much for spending this time with me today. I want you to know that I sincerely respect your time. Thank you for spending time with me on the show. You’re spending time that is well spent. This is a good investment of your time. I say that because you’re spending time understanding the word of God. Greater understanding of the word of God leads to greater appreciation for the miraculous life He has given you and I. We’re made in the image of God, therefore the more we learn about God the more we understand ourselves. The more we understand God, the greater ability we have to master ourselves. Self-mastery is a sure-fire way to be of greater service to the world. And my friends, we are all desirous of serving one another, which can best be achieved by mastering ourselves, which can only be achieved by developing a personal relationship with God, which can be enhanced through understanding the means by which God reveals himself to us. That is through the word of God in the Bible. And my friends, that is exactly what you have spent time learning today.

My friends, let’s take a moment to close in prayer. God, thank you so much for this time we have had in Your word. God, one of the prayers that’s always on my heart is from the Apostle Paul who prayed in Ephesians that You, God, would give us a spirit of wisdom, a spirit of revelation in the knowledge of You. God, the way I understand that scripture is that to really know You through Your word will require a supernatural reading of Your word in the same manner that Jesus Christ opened the minds of the apostles to understand scripture. God, that is my prayer now for myself and for the listener that, God, You would supernaturally reveal Yourself to us. God, sometimes Your voice is that still small voice, yet, God, I trust that as we earnestly seek You, that still small voice will become more and more audible in our life.

Well, my friends, thank you for joining me today. Until we meet again. May God bless you and keep you safe. And I look forward to speaking with you again on our next episode together of The Greg Amundson Show. Take care.

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